Site Meter Fiction Scribe » Blog Archive » Bird by Bird Discussion

Bird by Bird Discussion

by JM

bird-by-bird.jpgHello once again everyone! Last week we didn’t have a discussion because I was ill, setting us a week back, but I’m almost 100% well again and ready to discuss.

The week before that, we discussed Broccoli, Radio Station KFKD, and Jealousy - the first two being my favourite out of the book so far.

This week we’ll be discussing Index Cards and Calling Around.

(Please don’t let Calling Around be about the phone…

Index Cards

This was the chapter I was waiting for, in which Lamott reveals herself to be a list and note taker. I, being someone who is addicted to lists, post-it notes, and index cards, was hoping she say she was even the tiniest bit similar.

I agree with Lamott in that knowing you had heard or seen a wonderful something, something you knew you should remember for later, but only remembering you forgot that wonderful something later on. It’s something I think a lot of writers learn the hard way until they start carrying index cards/notepads/note keeper of choice.

That she mentions people who don’t need to take notes is a good idea to cover all possibilities, but I don’t know one person (if you’re out there, speak up) who doesn’t need some sort of note taking device to help remember things along the way. When I get half way to three quarters of the way through a novel, I write down everything I think will happen and reorganize them about a thousand times until I get the right line of events for my story.

As Lamott says – it’s not like it is cheating. We all do what we must to get the job done. And sometimes you will be able to later recall some of the most beautiful small moments of life.

What do you think? Do you take notes? Do you try to always have a paper and pen with you?

Calling Around

What can I say about this chapter? (Other than I hate using the phone.)

Lamott talks about one very valuable way to research things for your book – asking people. Everyone knows at least a little bit of something, and a lot of people know a lot about something. Maybe even two somethings.

It’s in talking to people (and delighting them to bits because you want to know about something they know about) that you can not only find the facts you are looking for, but you can find the personal stories that make life exciting and can bring the ‘real’ into your story.

It’s as simple as that. If you want to know something, ask someone. Write down everything they say. Even if it’s not relevant to your current work in progress.

I think that’s great advice.

And those, ladies and gentlemen, are the opening statements for this week’s book discussion. Feel free to weigh in on what Lamott (and I) had to say, whether or not you agree.

Don’t forget to read Writing Groups and Someone To Read Your Drafts for next week’s discussion.


9 Responses to “Bird by Bird Discussion”

  1. Robin Says:

    Hello,

    While perusing 451’s blogs after they put out a call for bloggers, I came upon your discussion of Bird by Bird. I just discovered Anne Lamott about a month ago after I picked up Traveling Mercies at a library book sale. I am now about half way through Bird by Bird and I would like to join your discussion. I will be going back to the previous entries over the next few days and chiming in, as well as keeping up with new discussions.

    I’m very happy to have someone to discuss this book with. Within the first few chapters, I was inspired to take out my shitty first draft of an adolescent novel I began a few years ago and continue working on it. I’ve fallen in love with my main characters all over again, and I’m feeling at ease because I now feel it’s okay for the first draft to be bad.

  2. JM Says:

    Hi there! Welcome to the site. I’m excited to have you weigh in on the discussions. Bird by Bird has been a lovely book so far and has inspired me as well.

    I’m looking forward to seeing what you have to say.

  3. Robin Says:

    Thanks for the welcome!

  4. JM Says:

    My pleasure. :)

  5. barbara Says:

    Not sure if I have told you yet, Jamie - but Anne Lamott will be the keynote speaker at the Kachemak Bay Writers Conference next June in Homer, Alaska. My daughter and I are so excited we could spit! We attended the conference together this year (Amy Tan was the keynote!) and are busily saving our pennies to go again next year to visit with Anne.
    ;)

  6. JM Says:

    Yeah, you told me that. I wish I could go. :( It would be great to get my copy of Bird by Bird signed.

    Save those pennies and have a lot of fun! You can write me a guest post about it. :)

  7. barbara Says:

    tell you what, - if you want to send me your book and how you’d like it autographed, I would be happy to take it along with my own copy to be signed. ;)

  8. barbara Says:

    closer to the time of the conference, of course - and after you are finished reading it and all that.
    ;)

  9. JM Says:

    Ah! You are the best! :) I’ve written it down and will send it off to you next April/May.

    (Did you get the package I sent you?)

Leave a Reply


About Fiction Scribe

Is your spelling less than stupendous? Has getting published gone from possibility to problem? Are you alienating your readers with alliteration? Here at Fiction Scribe you can find what you need for prompts, publishing opportunities and advice, fun wordplay, and more. Use Fiction Scribe for the encouragement you love, the information you want, and pointing out the mistakes writers make that you need. Fiction Scribe: Your source for everything writing.

Fiction Scribe Author(s)
    » JM

Blogging Flair

Books & Writing Channel Posts

  • Booking Through Thursday - First Lines
    Hello everyone and happy Thursday. Welcome again to yet another slightly late Booking Through Thursday. I reckon I should just start calling it “Booking Through Thursday Afternoon” or “Booking [...]
  • Thirteen Writing Prompts
    Hello and happy Thursday Thirteen everyone! This week’s Thursday Thirteen prompts are going to continue on with prompts, questions, first lines, and other inspiration to help you get [...]
  • Wednesday Work: Best-Money Blogging Sites
    There are, literally, hundreds of blog communities out there screaming for your writing ability. Be a little discriminating about which ones you choose, however, and you can actually earn money [...]
  • First Annual SCR Fiction Prize and More
    Mandatory Entry Form First Prize: $1,000 Second Prize: $200 Third Prize: $100 Guidelines: Send one story of up to 8,000 words with a $10 reading fee payable to Southern California Review. [...]
  • Random Word Bank Wednesday
    Hello once again everyone! Welcome to another mid-week random word bank. I rather like random word banks. There is a challenge in them that not only gets your mind working, but you can also end up [...]
  • Author Kamilla Reid Guest Post About Writing The Questory
    Hi! I’m Kamilla Reid and I’m here today to talk about my new book “The Questory of Root Karbunkulus” Actually, I’m here to talk about why I chose to write a teen fantasy. Well, the best [...]
  • Tuesday Tips: Blog Like You Mean It
    Steps to Blog Writing that Works Produce longer content. Numbered lists, short posts with big photos, a little linking and one-sentence reviews with the embedded YouTube videos: short content. I [...]
  • Deadlines
    Last week, one of the people I work for came to me with an idea for a project and was wondering if I wanted to do it. He’d mentioned the project to the group of people I work with before, and I had [...]
  • Tuesday Book List of Heavy Work Loads
    Today I am still facing a cold and have a big work load to boot. I have a massive project to finish under a deadline, so lets hope that I don't end up having to work too many late nights to finish [...]
  • Five Tips for Working on a Deadline
    If you want to be a writer in any field, deadlines are something you are going to have to get used to. Even as a novelist, there will probably be times when you need to get things done by a certain [...]

Hot Off The Press

  • The View Schedule July 28-August 1st
    Here is the guest line-up for The View for July 28th-August 1st, which will be the last week before the show's month-long hiatus. I really hope that the hosts learned from their last experience with [...]
  • Brown bag lecture, "A Summer Story at the Gardens...
    "A Summer Story at the Gardens,"Free for members, price of admission for general public 294-2710 [...]
  • The Mind of the Matter (Part Two)
    Yesterday I confessed to the fact that I don’t trust myself to have chocolate in the house with me when I’m alone during the day. After having a talk with my husband, I began to realize just how [...]
  • Booking Through Thursday - First Lines
    Hello everyone and happy Thursday. Welcome again to yet another slightly late Booking Through Thursday. I reckon I should just start calling it “Booking Through Thursday Afternoon” or “Booking [...]
  • Beyond the Show: Activity for Fans of Total Drama Island
    Welcome to this week’s edition of Beyond Watching the Show, where I give some ideas of activities for kids that enjoy a particular show that go beyond just watching the show. If you have more ideas [...]
  • Coco Sumner does her dad proud
    Performing before a large crowd at a charity benefit, Coco Sumner, only 17 years old, is sure making her daddy proud. This young chick's dad only happens to be none other than the legendary Sting, [...]
  • Words of Wisdom from Nina Garcia
    Women of the world, I beg of you, take to heart this statement made by Nina Garcia as she judged this week's Project Runway designs: "I think shiny, tight and short is the quickest way to look [...]
  • Housewives (and Husbands...) In the Headlines
    [caption id="attachment_567" align="alignleft" width="125" caption="Doug Savant and wife Laura Leighton"][/caption]Good morning, guys! It seems like the Desperate Housewives people are all over the [...]
  • HOH Blogs and pictures!
    For those that have been searching the CBS site for the HOH Blogs and Photos - they've finally appeared! Click here to check it out! [...]
  • Sherri Shepherd Discusses Precious Times Article (video)
    Here is a video clip of The View on Wednesday July 23 where Sherri Shepherd sought to clarify comments that she made in an interview with Precious Times about her prior history of abortions and [...]